Reference Gotcha
Through Planet PHP I saw the blog entry " Is PHP staying the language I want to work with? ", for with comments are cowardly disabled. Although the way classes are handled is debatable, moaning that PHP 4.4 breaks "return ($ret)" when returning by reference only shows that the programmer has had no clue about references in the first place. If you place () around a variable, you're making it an expression. You can only return variables by references, not expressions. The return-by-reference in this function never could have worked as it should have in the first place. Clue: Don't use "return (<something>)", but just "return <something>".
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Heh :)
Comments do work.
So why can I do this [in PHP5]?
$a = new stdclass(); $a->val = "hello"; $c = ($a); print ($a === $c); // true
I think that PHP is far from consistent in this kind of stuff -- or the manual far from clear. You can use () with 'require', for instance, buty require also is not a function. Just as you can choose not use them with 'print' which is a function .... Maybe there's some deeply hidden pattern here that escapes us PHP users.
That's because $c = ($a) simply assigned the value of the expression "($a)" to $c.
Would you care to cite a source for your statement that the implementation is "correct"? I have never seen or heard of a specification for the PHP language. Therefore, the only "correct" implementation is whatever is implemented by the PHP developers. You can't even argue that the specification is vague on this point. There is nothing in the manual to suggest that () or ?: should produce copies; they simply do. This could, hypothetically, be changed in some future version of PHP. I can easily argue that () should not generate copies if there is only one term inside of them. It is counterintuitive and ineffecient. I could also argue that PHP should issue a warning/notice for this case.
I see little point in belittling people for not knowing the details of the implementation of language constructs, especially when the behavior is not specified in the only reference they have (the manual).
I should also note that the manual is incorrect about () being required when the value being returned is an expression. At least in PHP 4.3.11, the statement return 'hello ' . 'world'; works perfectly fine. The manual is probably just out of date (I am too lazy to compile and check older versions to determine if it was ever crrect), but it makes the point that there is no reliable source for correct PHP information other than the implementation you're using.
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TIL that Kingfishers can hover just like hummingbird. I'll hopefully have some reasonable shots after I've gone through my nearly thousand shots today...
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I think this was my favourite photo of the set that I took. It's not at maximum coverage, but it does have a sun spot group (4508) just on the cusp of the terminator.
#eclipse #eclipse2026 #SolarEclipse #London #Astronomy #AstroPhotography #Photography
No totality here in London, but still had a great evening out in the local park and taking some snaps.
I did have a nice Solar Filter that I made for my lens, and had many conversations with people from different backgrounds. Kids loves to look through my filter after I was done (ran out of battery power).
More photos later...
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Merged pull request #1100
Fixed issue #2267: Application slow when debugger is not listening on…
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Is there somebody who runs PHP on native windows (with Xdebug) and can run a simple script for me?
It must be in a file (`test.php`):
```
<?php
echo microtime(true), "\n";
xdebug_connect_to_client();
echo microtime(true), "\n";
```And run like:
php -dxdebug.log_level=11 -dxdebug.log=c:\temp\xdebug-i.log -dxdebug.client_host=localhost -dxdebug.client_port=9111 -dxdebug.mode=debug c:\temp\test.php
With the port 9111 not open.
Would love to see the output and log file (in a DM).
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@harry_wood This is this list of 100 Go-mistakes that I was talking about: https://100go.co/
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Enjoying my afternoon and evening out at Lords for some cricket!
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